I solved it on the 4th roll. From the beginning, I thought the name was strange and got stuck thinking about that strange name. I kept asking, "Why is it called Petals Around the Rose?" I didn't even attempt to solve any of the rolls. I just looked at the rolls and thought about the strange name. Then on the 4th roll, I "saw" it. Pretty cool. My 13 year old son is trying to solve it now. He asked if he could simplify it by using less than 5 dice. Of course, I said yes. Simplifying a problem is one of the first steps in problem solving. He is stuck on the name and keeps asking why is it called Petals Around the Rose.