Petals Around the Rose: Fraternity Register

@ Durin Booth

I think you might be right concernig some answers here but generally your answer assumption is incorrect, I'd say. It's not at all the rationalising of "failure" but about thinking patterns. To be specific, "brainiacs" like Bill, have a certain way to deal with problems, any numerical problems. While assuming that there is a deeper algorithm in the puzzle a thorough analysis of the numbers and the correlation to the solution takes time - and quite some brain too. Now this might not be applicable in every field and in this case it is in the contrary even damaging to the solving process, it still reflects a great deal of "thinking". So for some your "fallacious syllogism" theory might apply, in general terms though it really is - naive. By the way I'm studying language and i got it right at the third roll, confirming that i concentrated more on what actually is "said" in the description and name of the game.

I had to roll a lot before i remembered enough correct answers to actually get to solving the problem. Took me at least 50 rolls.

Eh. Easy. It took me 5 rolls to figure it out. I tried and discarded 3 different hypotheses in the process, then examined it for 3 seconds and applied some logic.

Figuring this game out is an exercise in problem solving and observation. If there's any correlation between intelligence and the ability to work out the secret, the die definitely fall on the side of ability to master and assimilate variables = quicker solutions. Ergo, the more intelligent really will grasp it quicker in general terms. The problem with the assertion of greater intelligence = longer time spent is that it relies on QED logic, i.e. omg, Bill didn't get it. Bill is smart. Therefore smart people take longer. It's a fallacious syllogism, given that one *presupposes* greater intelligence and therefore rationalizes the failure post factum.

I thought of something at the start that might be the answer, but I didn't get all of it, so my answer to the first roll/throw was wrong...I ruled out that answer, but after about 45 minutes, I figured it out...I was on the right track, but didn't take it far enough...fairly simple after all!

Took about 20 minutes, most friends seem to have got it much quicker

I don't want to offend anyone here, but I think solving this puzzle in a really short time, does confirm that you are not able or willing to use complex thinking patterns to solve a riddle. Obviously most of these games have a simple answer but suspecting an answer so graphic without taking other theories in account seems ....stupid? Or rather unlogical. I think there is a reason that most braniacs take a lot of time to solve this, because a coherent "logical" answer does require a thorough investigation of each throw, not really possible in a minute or two. On the other hand is it really necessary to think in such a restricted logical way? I guess both have their advantages but none is "smarter" then the other, as long as there has been some kinda of "thinking-process" to solve the riddle.

Should call it petals around the rose... rose makes you think of thorns... and thorns makes you think of something else... and then you're lost... Should call it something around something.....haha...

I got the first Roll right, by pure chance. That did kinda confuse me, because I thought I had already figured out the pattern. After 3 further roles, which made all my theories of arrangment, colour schemes, mathematical formulas or correlation of numbers disappear, i knew what was going on the fifth time, sixth throw confirmed my theory. Nonetheless I think it isn't really that hard, just another indicator for the disadvantage of people that tend to think in a restricted way. For mathematicians it is probably going to take a lot longer then ten minutes.

haha... i got it in less than 20 mins... i can only say that i'm not dumb

Arrgh... Should be Petals of the Roses....

I took 1hr 45 mins to solve.... My friend took 20....
He refused to accept he is less intelligent though...
Time-independent IQ equation?? =D